Episode 33

Published on:

30th Jul 2023

HILFH #33 Dr. Zaher Wahab

Dr Zaher Wahab is professor emeritus of Education at Lewis & Clark College, and former senior advisor to the Afghan Ministry of Higher Education. Dr Wahab, also taught at American University of Afghanistan from 2013 to 2020.

Zaher was born and schooled in Afghanistan. He was the first person in his family’s history to attend the "village school," a boarding school in Kabul, and later received scholarships to attend college in Lebanon and the US. He earned a BA in sociology from The American University of Beirut, an MA in comparative education from Teachers College at Columbia University, and both an MA in anthropology and a PhD in international development education from Stanford University.

Zaher is dedicated to praxis - the practical application of our best thinking to real life challenges. He and Mary take this time to dig deep into the ways praxis can be applied in support of climate justice and repair.

In our conversation you will get a sense of the vast and direct knowledge Zaher has of education and society across the globe. Listen to this advocate for global understanding and respect. Consider with us how these fundamental ways of being naturally show up in our honoring of both interdependence and sovereignty.

You can learn more about Dr. Wahab's work and vision by searching through his abundant contributions on the internet.

Peace Action: https://www.peaceaction.org/tag/zaher-wahab/

Columbia University Center for Oral History: https://oralhistoryportal.library.columbia.edu/document.php?id=ldpd_8095968

Connect with Zaher’s most recent thoughts by watching the you tube of his 2022 talk, with the Schiller Institute and entitled, “Dialogue, Not a Clash of Civilizations.”

Learn more about the Brazilian educational philosopher Paolo Freire who has been such an inspiration to Zaher.


Kabul is ranked the 12th most polluted capitol in the world.

Afghanistan is the 6th environmentally the most damaged country in the world.

Ecological disasters in Afghanistan have displaced millions of Afghans.

Only 13% of Afghans have safe drinking water and 15% electricity.


Podcast score: Original music by Gary A Ferguson.

Arabic Instrumental,  Music by DMD_Production from Pixabay

Islam Dream, Music by SergeQuadrado from Pixabay

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How It Looks From Here
Life in the time of climate change
The truth is, life looks different to you than it does to me. The way race and gender, education and work, and everyday circumstances come together in any person...well, it’s different.

Hosted by Mary Clare, How It Looks From Here brings you diverse perspectives through engaging interviews. It's easy to think that everyone is feeling the same way you are - but they’re not. For every person, how it looks from where they are matters. And, with every interview, we’re enriched. It's helping.
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Mary M Clare is a social scientist focused on social and cultural phenomena. She is an American Psychological Association Fellow, and the author of over 100 scholarly articles and three books, the latest, FULL ECOLOGY - REPAIRING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NATURAL WORLD, co-authored with Gary Ferguson. Mary is both truly curious and truly interested in the way people see life and how sharing those perspectives can strengthen the way we are in community.